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21 Apr 2021 02:57:32
Magic Situation

Magic draft Evan Mobley @ 2 pick

Magic get Miles Bridges

Hornets get Wendell Carter Jr

Or

Magic get 2022 first round pick(Top 3 protected).via Hornets two future second round picks

Hornets get Wendell Carter Jr

18 Apr 2021 11:48:00
Magic/Mavericks

Magic get Josh Richardson (opt in) 2022 second round pick.via Mavericks

Mavericks get Terrance Ross

17 Apr 2021 23:23:03
Magic/Wolves

Magic get Jake Layman Josh Okogie Jarred Vanderbilt 1 pick.via Wolves

Wolves get Terrance Ross Cole Anthony 4 pick.via Magic 2022 first round pick(unprotected).via Magic 2025 first round pick(Top 5 protected).via Nuggets

Magic draft Cade Cunningham PG/SF

Wolves draft Jalen Suggs PG/SG

Is this a fair trade for both teams??

18 Apr 2021 12:26:22
So Minny has Rubio, DLo, Edwards, Suggs, and Anthony splitting back court minutes.

18 Apr 2021 12:38:53
I mean we don't really know lottery order yet. I also don't think TWolves could get Suggs at 4.

18 Apr 2021 23:08:50
@Websjac, Minny wouldn't get Suggs @ #4, Golden State would. Pick is only top 3 protected.

19 Apr 2021 14:41:42
If anything, Minny is probably going to ask for Isaac to get the #1 pick. Orlando can keep that 2025 pick.

16 Apr 2021 09:27:49
On draft day

1)Indy-Sac

Sac:Sabonis
Indy:Haliburton+1rnd pick sac (9)

2)Indy-Orl (or Minny, if they fall to 4)

Indy: 4rth pick

Orl: 9+12+ 1rnd pick Indy 2022

draft: Mobley
sign: D Robinson

C:M turner/Bitadze
Pf:Mobley/Warren
SF:D Robinson/Holiday
Sg:LeVert/Lamb
Pg:Haliburton/Brogdon

16 Apr 2021 13:53:22
Nobody is giving up top 4 picks in this year's draft. They are exceptional. Green Suggs Mobley or Cunningham.

16 Apr 2021 16:10:47
Kings do not have the cap space for the salary difference between Sabonis and Halliburton.

Would consider a Hield+#9 for Turner+#12 swap thou.

Also, seriously doubt Mobley falls out of the top 3 as Best Player Available. I can see Cunningham and Suggs going ahead of him, not Green or Kuminga.

16 Apr 2021 17:53:21
Brogdon on the bench?

16 Apr 2021 18:16:45
Pacers have to many sg fredman.

16 Apr 2021 20:33:21
And if Minnesota falls to 4 or later then GS gets the pick.

17 Apr 2021 14:34:30
shizzee, play LaVert at the SF. he is 6-6.

18 Apr 2021 03:25:17
66 is not enough to be a sf that’s a big shooting guard.

13 Apr 2021 23:07:54
Magic/Mavericks/Knicks/Kings Magic Off-season

Kings get Gary Harris Mo Bamba Kevin Knox

Magic get Trey Burke Josh Richardson Dwight Powell 2021 first round pick.via Mavericks 2022 second round pick.via Mavericks 2024 second round pick

Knicks get Terrance Ross Michael Carter Williams

Mavericks get Buddy Hield

14 Apr 2021 13:40:09
lets see. Hield makes $22.2 next year. Harris (20.4), Bamba (7.5) and Knox (5.8) is a total of $33.3. Kings don't have $11 mil in cap space nor are the salaries within 125% + $100K.

14 Apr 2021 23:18:17
Knicks will take on Ross and MCW and anybody else you don't want Harris and take your bulls 1st. I don't know why you need cap space. Your not signing anybody and accept over paying for Fultz.

13 Apr 2021 11:01:34
Orlando get Hernangomez Okogie
Wolves get Love Garland
Cavs get Rubio Culver Bamba MCW

Suggs-4/Garland/Tre.Jones
Russell/Beasley/Nowell
Edwards/Layman/Coffey
Love/McDaniels/Gillespie
Towns/Reid/Muscala

Sexton/Rubio/MCW
Okoro/Culver/Windler
Prince/Osman/Dotson
Nancejr/Mobley-2/Wade
Allen/Hartenstein/Bamba

Harris for Hield
sign Howard 4yr 60mil

Fultz/Anthony/Hampton
Hield/Green-3/Mane
Ross/Kuminga-7/Okogie
Isaac/Okeke/Hernangomez
Holmes/Carter/Bassey

13 Apr 2021 12:51:48
Kings are not trading Hield for Harris. That is one of the easiest "No"s I have every seen.

Howard back to Orlando? LOL!

13 Apr 2021 16:15:27
Harris overall as good as Hield, if you stop looking at stats and recognize defense. Something kings org doesn't believe in. Look at plus minus.

13 Apr 2021 23:05:50
@shizzee. Has Harris returned form his injury yet? Harris is a career 1.2 steals per game "defender". Hield is a career 0.8 steals per game defender. While career scoring shows Hield with a 4 point per game average. So I don't think the stats quite support your claim.

14 Apr 2021 23:38:54
The disparity between there offense and defense makes them equal. But being that Haliburton is already better all around player than Hield, you get an expiring contract. Hield contract is borderline negative value.

15 Apr 2021 13:44:09
Sorry. I would rather have the additional 20 points over 5 games that Hield gives me than the 2 steals over 5 games that Harris would add.

And why would I want an expiring contract. No one signs in Sacramento remember?

12 Apr 2021 23:43:42
Magic/Pelicans Sign and Trade Off-Season

Magic get Lonzo Ball 17 mill per year

Pelicans get Markelle Fultz 2025 first round pick(Top 5 protected).via Nuggets from Magic

Second Trade

Mavericks get Terrance Ross

Magic get Josh Richardson (opt in)

13 Apr 2021 16:33:52
Fultz has no positive value at 17 mil per yr. 4th pick fultz for Ball.
I guarantee you Bledsoe starts before fultz.

13 Apr 2021 21:34:11
I think it sucks. Since you asked. But that’s business as usual

Ball is far far better than Fultz. And the Nuggets pick means nothing to a team with as many picks as Pels have.

12 Apr 2021 21:08:18
Hornets get Plumlee Joseph Quickley NY 22 2ND
Detriot get Barrett Toppin Bamba NY 22 DAL 23 1ST
Orlando get Knox McCruder 2 Jazz 1st via NY
Knicks get Rozier Grant Richards 55 59

Joseph for Jordan
Hornets
Ball/Graham/Riller
Quickley/Caleb/Monk
Hayward/Bridges/Cody
Washington/Garuba-16/McDaniels
Jordan/Plumlee/Carey

Detriot
Cunningham/Hayes/MCW
Barrett/Diallo/Lee
Bey/Jackson/Syrvidis
Toppin/Doumbouya/Cook
Stewart/Okafor/Bamba

Harris for Hield 58
Fultz 22 1st for Russell

Magic
Russell/Anthony/Smithjr
Hield/Hampton/McCruder
Isaac/Ross/Knox
K.Jones-12/Okeke/I.Jackson-36
Mobley-4/Carter/Cockburn-58

Kawhi 4yr 140mil Portis 2yr 25mil
Howard 2yr 8mil MLE

Knicks
Rozier/D.Mitchell-14/Ntilikina
Kawhi/C.Thomas-20/Clarke-59
Grant/Todd-32/G.Brown-47
Randle/Portis/Sylla-55
Robinson/Howard/Richards

12 Apr 2021 23:02:02
I posted this 3 days ago 😂.

13 Apr 2021 21:04:09
Too good for Detroit.

12 Apr 2021 21:07:33
Orlando get Knox McCruder 2 Jazz 2nd (ny)
Knicks get Grant Rozier N.Richards 55 59
Detriot get Barrett Toppin Bamba MCW NY 22 DAL 23 1ST
Hornets get Plumlee Quickley Joseph

Holmes 4yr 48mil

Ball/Graham/Joseph
Quickley/Caleb/Monk
Hayward/Bridges/Cody
Washington/K.Jones-14/McDaniels
Plumlee/Holmes/Carey

Harris for Horford Nug 2nd future 1st pick

Fultz/Anthony/DJohnson-pickup
Hampton/Green-4/McCruder
Ross/Barnes-10/Knox
Isaac/Okeke/Queta-53
Carter/Horford/Bassey-36

Cunningham-1/Hayes/MCW
Barrett/Diallo/Lee
Bey/Jackson/Syrvidis
Toppin/Doumbouya/Cook
Stewart/Okafor/Bamba

Knicks sign Kawhi Leonard 4yr 140mil Bobby Portis 4 yr 30 mil
Knicks sign Dwight Howard mle 2yr 7mil
Robinson 5yr 60mil Extension

Rozier/D.Mitchell-14/Ntilikina
Leonard/C.Thomas-20/Clarke-55
Grant/Todd-32/G.Brown-47
Randle/Portis/Sylla-59
Robinson/Howard/Richards

11 Apr 2021 21:12:41
Hornets get Plumlee Joseph Quickley NY 22 23 2ND
Detriot get Barrett Toppin Bamba NY 22 DAL 23 1ST
Orlando get Knox McCruder 2 Jazz 1st via NY
Knicks get Rozier Grant Richards 55 59

Jo
seph for Jordan

Ball/Graham/Riller
Quickley/Caleb

12 Apr 2021 00:57:02
Jazz 2nd.

12 Apr 2021 10:07:05
Magic say no.

12 Apr 2021 10:07:44
Knicks say no too.

12 Apr 2021 17:24:17
Sorry but the sight chopped my full original trade.

Orlando get Knox McCruder 2 JAZZ 2ND
Orlando traded MCW Bamba.

11 Apr 2021 16:21:12
Magic Wolves Knicks NBA Draft Trade !

Magic get Jarrett Culver 1 pick.via Wolves

Wolves get Markelle Fultz 4 pick.via Magic 13 pick.via Knicks 2023 first round pick(Top 4 protected).via Bulls from Magic 2025 first round pick(unprotected).via Knicks

Knicks get D'Angelo Russell

11 Apr 2021 16:59:50
I don't like your idea via makes no sense.

11 Apr 2021 17:04:37
Russell >> Fultz. Fultz is an overpaid Ntilikina not his game but talent. So you want Culver and 1st pick. Vs fultz 4th and 2025 1st. GFOOH. wolves and knick can make deal without Orlando if they want Russell. Russell hasn't won anywhere.

11 Apr 2021 19:06:56
Not feeling those future picks when both teams have other 2021 selections.

Also, how quick does KAT drop his trade demand after this trade is completed?

11 Apr 2021 21:07:42
Still trying to get gold from garbage I see.

11 Apr 2021 22:50:50
KAT already asked for a trade, didn’t he? I can’t see that changing any time soon. He won’t be there more than another season or two.

12 Apr 2021 18:33:02
I think KAT has pulled back from that once DLo arrived and/ or his family catching c.v., BMiller.

10 Apr 2021 16:00:52
Sac - Orl - Det

Sac get Ross & Grant

Fox
Haliburton
Barnes
Grant
Holmes

6th man: Ross

Orl get Hield & 2nd rd pick Det

Fultz
Hield
Okeke
Isaac
Carter

Det get Bagley, Bamba & 1st rd pick Sac 2022 lottery protected

Hayes
Diallo
Bey
Bagley
Plumlee/Bamba

10 Apr 2021 15:44:16
Ross + Bamba does not get Orlando Hield and a second.

10 Apr 2021 16:23:43
Detroit don't want no bust bagley.

10 Apr 2021 18:12:08
I offered Randle Barrett Bamba for Grant plumlee bey. Knox to orl. Every crapped on me. Bagley and Hield is 1 way inconsistent offensive player and bamba are on Knox's value board. So how do the Kings get the 2 best players in that trade. Why would magic do that. Fredman, your a kings fan, why is he posting 1 sided trade for u.

10 Apr 2021 19:09:36
First off, Ross is far, far from the 2nd best player in this trade. Career 41.9 shooting percentage says non-efficent volume shooter. But he gets to put up a lot of shots in Orlando. Not very valuable on a team that would limit his shooting IMO.

Hields career numbers are significantly better than Ross even though Hield is having probably his worse season. Why trade low? And obviously MD wants to get him cheaply.

Grant's trade value is also tricky to measure becauae he gets to maximize his usage in Detroit. Pretty sure that usage gets curtailed in Sac with Fox and a developing Halliburton. Thus giving up the first seems like an overpay in Sac's GM's mind.

Now if it was Orlando giving up the first instead of Sac, then I would think the values would be right and support this move.

11 Apr 2021 14:59:47
Detroit says no by a mile. Grant is far better than two busts that are projects and a protected first. Detroit would want a young A caliber prospect + picks for him.
Orlando doesn’t really have the need to trade for Hield, however, they do have a tendency to pick up draft picks that didn't pan out, so maybe they make an offer for Bagley. Probably like a 2nd and Ross for him.

11 Apr 2021 23:04:36
Detroit don't want no bbb.
Busted bagley bamba.

08 Apr 2021 03:39:48
How do the Knicks sell Kawhi Leonard a 2nd time to NY. After finishing 32-40 10th seed.

Trade Toppin for Pelicans 34th 37th

Orlando get Knox NY 22 23 2nd
Detriot get Randle Barrett Bamba Quickley
Knicks get Plumlee Grant Bey


88 mil cap space
Lowry 2 50mil DeRozan 4yr 110mil Leonard 4yr 140mil

Portis mle

Lowry/D.Mitchell-10/Dosunmu-32
DeRozan/C.Thomas-18/Christopher-40
Leonard/Bey/Todd-37
Grant/Portis/Prkacin-34
Plumlee/Robinson/Pelle

08 Apr 2021 13:12:07
Knicks having 88 mil in cap space is unbelievable.

Think you are forgetting about the $6 mil in dead cap money for Noah as well as the cap holds for the 2 first round picks. Sportrac is showing them at a projected $74 mil after this trade.

Also Spotrac is showing that the Knicks do not get an MLE in 2021-2022 to sign Portis. Just the room exception.

Also really curious to see how the Leonard-DeRozen chemistry develops.

08 Apr 2021 14:50:58
Will Leonard want to come to the Knicks?
Also not seeing DeRozan playing without a floor-stretching C.

08 Apr 2021 15:47:08
Why pull the plug so quick on Toppin?

08 Apr 2021 20:01:42
Haters, soft cap is 122mil. Knicks salary 48 mil with Noah next. That's 74. Toppin trade 5 mil. Detriot trade save 5mil. 84mil to DeRozan Lowry and Leonard. Still works.

08 Apr 2021 21:49:23
Check again, shizzee. Soft cap AKA salary cap for next year is $112 mil, not $122. Also, Knicks are at $44 mil because they are picking up the club option on Robinson and $6 for Noah and that puts them at $50-ish. Subtract that from $112 and Knicks have $62 for Lowry, Kawhi and DeRozen with Kawhi's max starting at $39 mil in first year. So that leaves $23 for Derozen and Lowry.

Was nice and left out the cap hold for the first round pick as well.

08 Apr 2021 21:59:59
Also, Kawhi opting out of $36 mil to sign and play for $35 ($140/ 4) mil when his max is $39 mil for next year? Yea, definitely not seeing that happening.

10 Apr 2021 04:30:55
So Knicks finally have a good rebuild going and blow it all up? If they develop Quickly, Barrett and Toppin they will have a decent core for years to come and can add talent as they go.

10 Apr 2021 04:44:21
Playing in Miami he will make that up cost of living and taxes way cheaper.

10 Apr 2021 16:41:24
I think bey do good at the 2 so they don't need DeRozan.

How about not do the trades could ny sign Leonard and Lowry. Do they have about 65 mil in cap space. Yeah they do. plus have a little extra
Lowry
Barrett
Leonard
Randle
Robinson
Or they can trade randle and whatever picks to get better.

10 Apr 2021 19:51:52
SMH. School bell rings. Sit down II and shizzee and take notes. There will be a test after this lesson.

Using next years salaries and assuming that the Knicks guarantee Randle's salary as well as pick up the option on Robinson, these would be the salaries that the Knicks would have on the book for next year.

Randle (20.7), Barrett (8.6), Knox (5.8), Toppin (5.1), Quickly (2.2) and Robinson (1.8) for a total of $44.2.

Add to that the $6.4 mil in dead money for Noah and the number rises to $50.6. Now assuming that the Knicks waive all their cap holds on last years players, then there are only two other cap holds that still have to be added before determining the Knicks available cap space. The first is for the 6 vacant roster spots that the Knicks are projected to have which comes to $5.5 mil. The second is for the 2 first round picks that the Knicks currently have unless they are traded away before the start of next season (or Euro hide and stash selections) . That salary cap hold will be around $5.8 mil. So add $11.3 (5.8+5.5) to the $50.6 mentioned early puts the Knicks at $61.9 mil.

Now subtact $61.9 from $112.4 (next years salary cap) and the Knicks are left with 50.5 mil in available cap to sign free agents. Hell, let's just round it to $51 to make it easier. And there is no "little extra" unless you are talking about the exemptions which do not apply to signing Lowry and Leonard and can only be used after the Knicks are over the salary cap.

Kawhi will be eligible for a max contract starting at around $40 mil so unless you believe he is signing for less than the max, the Knicks will only have around $11 mil to sign Lowry which is only slightly more than the MLE ($9.5) for next season.

I don't see Kawhi signing for less than max and I don't see Lowry signing for $11 mil when he would probably get a better offer from Miami once they waive all their players like Iggy and Dragic and probably the cap hold on Oladipo with his new knee injury on the same leg that had the previous quad injury.

what are your questions before I hand out the test?

10 Apr 2021 21:43:26
51 then waive randle so add like 15 more mil that's like 66. so they can sign Leonard and lowry. plus trade whoever and whatever picks they have too but barrett and get a real good player to pair with Leonard lowry and barrett or trade everyone and all picks to get a superstar player to pair with lowry and leonard.

05 Apr 2021 11:28:12
Magic/Kings/Mavericks NBA Draft & Off Season

Magic get Josh Green Dwight Powell

Kings get Gary Harris Mo Bamba

Mavericks get Buddy Hield 2024 second round pick.via Blazers from Kings

Magic get young shooting player & veteran power forward/center player in return

Dallas get veteran scoring shooting guard & second round pick

Kings get expiring contract shooting guard & young center

05 Apr 2021 15:14:55
ahhhh. No. If anything Magic giving up the pick not the Kings. Hield's contract is decreasing over time so it becomes more managable in the future. Much like Harrison Barnes deal.

May consider a Bagley-Bamba+pick swap, but that's about it.

06 Apr 2021 08:04:02
Mann no.

04 Apr 2021 03:45:44
Orlando Magic Situation

Mo Bamba is a bust

Hornets get Mo Bamba

Magic get Vernon Carey 2021 second round pick.via Clippers from Hornets & 2024 second round pick.via Boston from Hornets

04 Apr 2021 05:52:54
Take out the picks.

04 Apr 2021 14:32:46
Picks going the wrong way.

04 Apr 2021 19:14:39
The Guy starts his trade idea admitting tBamba is a bust but then STILL overvalued him massively

Yepp.

03 Apr 2021 12:18:20
Magic/Raptors/Pacers Orlando Magic NBA Draft & Off-Season

Magic get Aron Bayne Jeremy Lamb 2022 first round pick(Top 10 protected).via Raptors 2021 second round pick.via Jazz from Pacers 2024 second round pick.via Cleveland or Jazz (less favorable) from Pacers

Raptors get Mo Bamba

Pacers get Terrance Ross

03 Apr 2021 14:43:17
nobody is giving you a first round pick for Mo Bamba.

04 Apr 2021 02:01:47
Bamba for Knox.

03 Apr 2021 08:00:11
Kings - Bamba

Spurs - Bagley

Magic - Walker

Can add a 2nd or two if needed to either side. All 3 can use a change of scenario

Fox/Wright
Haliburton/Davis
Hield/Woodard
Barnes/Johnson(draft)
Holmes/Bamba

Murray/Mills
Johnson/White
Derozan(resign)/Vassell
Bagley/Samanic
Poeltl/Bassey(draft)

Fultz/Anthony
Walker/Hampton
Okeke/Ross
Isaac/Birch
Mobley(draft)/Carter

03 Apr 2021 12:36:56
Magic say no we have too many guards already.

03 Apr 2021 16:27:11
MD he’s a SG/ SF, which you can’t rly have enough of in today’s NBA. Porter is leaving after this year. Harris/ Hampton/ Okeke/ Ross are your only wings after this year. can't rly include Hampton since he’s more of a combo guard. Every team has 5-7 wings.

03 Apr 2021 17:45:21
I thought it was Kemba and I was like WTF, lol.

02 Apr 2021 10:16:59
Magic/Hornets Sign and Trade NBA Off-Season

Magic get Malik Monk Vernon Carey 2022 second round pick.via Raptors from Hornets 2023 second round pick.via Boston from Hornets

Hornets get Terrance Ross Mo Bamba

Hornets sign and trade with Magic

Magic sign Malik Monk 3 years 25.4 million

Hornets have cap space to bring Terrance Ross & Mo Bamba to the team

02 Apr 2021 13:44:24
you can't add a player to the signed and traded player. you can't include Carey with Monk.

31 Mar 2021 23:52:59
Magic/Knicks NBA Draft & Off-Season

Magic get Kevin Knox

Knicks get 2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic

Magic release Michael Carter Williams

01 Apr 2021 14:34:17
Knox for Ross 22 2nd.

01 Apr 2021 18:32:29
Ross is as productive as Barrett almost. Know is MCW at best in value.

02 Apr 2021 04:43:59
Barrett hasn't missed a game. Ross has played 30 games. Availability is a talent you can't forget. I am not fan of his game, like Butler he getting better each year.

02 Apr 2021 18:00:04
Shizzee he started so low had to get better.

31 Mar 2021 11:48:55
Magic/Hornets/Wizards/Boston NBA Draft & Off-Season

Boston send 2021 second round pick to Magic

Boston receive Michael Carter Williams

Wizards send Davis Bertans to Magic

Wizards receive Terrance Ross

Magic send Terrance Ross to Wizards Mo Bamba to Hornets Michael Carter Williams to Boston

Magic receive Vernon Carey Jr Davis Bertans 2021 second round pick & 2023 second round pick & 2026 second round pick

Hornets send Vernon Carey Jr 2023 second round pick & 2026 second round pick

Hornets receive Mo Bamba

31 Mar 2021 12:28:34
Imagine giving a 2nd for MCW.

31 Mar 2021 14:45:09
On a side note, just found out that the two future 2nds that Boston sent to Orlando for Fournier were a 2025 and 2027 second rounder. Holy Crap that will not be helpful any time soon.

31 Mar 2021 19:19:53
Wonder how long this rebuild will take for them to make the playoffs and not get bounced in the first round? This decade?

31 Mar 2021 21:33:24
They’re on pace for a top 5 pick. Add a top 5 pick in 2022. Draft good and they’re only a few years out. Draft bad and they’re trusting the process for a decade. It’s all a gamble at that point.

01 Apr 2021 00:42:14
I don't know. These two 2021 lottery picks should be interesting though.

 
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