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27 Nov 2023 17:13:35
Okc- siakam with extension agreement
Tor- k johnson, k williams, 1st rd picks from okc
Sas- giddey, bertans
Shai
Dort
Williams
Siakam
Chet
Dennis
Johnson
Anunoby
Barnes
Poeltl
Giddey
Vassell
Sochan
Collins
Wemby
28 Nov 2023 16:28:35
Siakam has said in several different publications that he is not signing an extension so that it "prevents" him from being traded to a place without his stamp of approval.
16 Nov 2023 23:16:33
Three team trade to get the Windy City on the rebuild path, give thunder some front court size along side Chet, while raptors add some 3 and D.
Raptors trade Pascal and Malachi to Thunder (and maybe a few $mm) as well as Chris and Precious to Chicago for Lu Dort, Tre Mann and Zach Levine and maybe a second rounder or two from OKC
OKC also send David Bertans and two FRP to Chi town.
If it works Raps sign OG and Gary at earliest convenience recognizing OG probably will wait til free agency to get paid. If it don't guess they dump at trade deadline. Hats off to Pascal for his accomplishments along the way. Championships rosters rarely are built in one trade. So be gentle boys.
20 Nov 2023 16:24:50
Terrible trade siakim is worth more the lavine and dort won't be traded from OKC besides why would you trade siakim for an often Injuried lavine.
Raptor's need a sg and a good shooter at that. Siakim is worth alot these days and come trade deadline I can see them either trading siakim or OG depending on the return. Barnes will play the role of who goes. And to be honest think they need to trade Trent Jr more then anyone. If he was better and scoring the raptors would win more games. Boucher and tent Jr for a better scoring 2 guard.
08 Nov 2023 07:27:58
Bulls/76ers
Bulls
Get
Tobias Harris
Furkan Korkmaz
Danuel House Jr
2026 1st.via Thunder or Rockets or Clippers
2028 1st.via Clippers
2028 1st Swap with 76ers (Least Favorable Protected)
76ers
Get
Zach LaVine
Patrick Williams
2028 1st Swap with Bulls (More Favorable Protected)
09 Nov 2023 13:38:11
I think this is a fair trade but i want to see the Sixers swing a deal for a more complimentary guy to Maxey and Embiid. Zach might get some of Maxey's touch and that could be bad for Tyrese.
05 Nov 2023 13:45:40
1) OKC-Nets
OKC: Bridges
Nets:Bertrans+J Williams+ 1rnd pick Clip 24+ 1rnd pick Hou 25
2)OKC-Wolves
OKC:KAT
Wolves:Dort+ Pokusevski+K Williams. 1rnd pick Hou 24+ 1rnd pick Miami 25+1rnd pick Philly 25
OKC
C:KAT
PF:Holmgren
SF:Bridges
SG:Giddey
PG:SGA
05 Nov 2023 19:16:06
If OKC wants KAT, Holmgren has to be going to Minnesota.
06 Nov 2023 01:03:25
I see Chet as more valuable than Towns.
06 Nov 2023 03:23:01
Chet is waaaaay more valuable than KAT.
26 Oct 2023 14:48:43
Indy: J Poole
Nets: B Hield+ T Jones
Was:B Simmons+ 1rnd pick Clip (from OKC) 23+ 1rnd pick Phoe 25
26 Oct 2023 23:01:25
Personally I don't know why anyone would want Poole, especially Indy.
27 Oct 2023 09:19:29
Indy has a balanced team, but we can use a finisher. He's on a reasonable contract and we're going to lose Hield for nothing.
Little chance we can draft a talent like Poole with that clippers pick
I think he could become an all star
C:Turner/ Jackson/ Tshiebwe
PF:Toppin/ Smith/ Wallace
SF:Mathurin/ Nesmith/ K Brown
SG:Poole/ B Brown/ Nembhard
PG:Haliburton/ Sheppard/ McConnell.
27 Oct 2023 12:13:46
Damn I think he's on one of the worst contracts in the league, and I know I'm not alone.
27 Oct 2023 19:43:45
Agree Nightcap - Pacers have too many guards even if we trade Hield. Poole and his max deal are NOT the answer.
28 Oct 2023 00:00:23
Jordan is a locker room toxic. He doesnt belong on that young and growing Pacers team.
28 Oct 2023 21:05:30
Probably not the defender you want next to hali as well.
16 Oct 2023 16:02:50
Midseason if Tor isn't winning & siakam is not nearing extension talks
Cavs- siakam
Okc- allen
Tor- 1st okc, 1st cle, jaylin williams, dort & levert, pick swap cavs, pick swap okc
Cavs add a star next to mitchell ans garland. Big risk but can be worth
Garland
Mitchell
Strus
Siakam
Mobley
Okc add inside presence next to chet
Giddey
Sga
Williams
Chet
Allen
Raps get a lot for pascal
Levert
Dort
Barnes
Anunoby
Poeltl
16 Oct 2023 16:14:22
Cavs decline. Siakam is not a good fit next to our core players. Also, we don't have firsts to trade.
16 Oct 2023 17:14:57
How is Siakam not a good fit in Cleveland? Seems like he’d be an amazing fit with Mobley.
16 Oct 2023 17:42:58
WAY too much for a half year rental of aging Siakam. Maybe if TOR traded him last off season.
16 Oct 2023 19:08:26
Siakam is one of those players who can fit in more than half of the teams in the league.
16 Oct 2023 23:10:36
Allen and a first is way too much for Siakam? How?
Has Siakam become the most underrated player in the league?
17 Oct 2023 20:32:11
I don’t think Allen has that much value that OKC is giving.
25 Oct 2023 20:55:41
siakam is actually a tough fit and doesnt fit most places. he's on an expiring and may have unrealistic expectations about what hes worth going forward.
25 Oct 2023 20:56:03
masai is starting to get exposed.
07 Nov 2023 16:26:27
For the raptors I don't think k this is worth it. I think they need a guard and picks. Dort is definitely a player I would love to have but everyone else is just meh. Cavs would be better but that's if Mobley can play center if he can they it's a win. OKC needs a true center but also needs Dort.
16 Oct 2023 15:52:29
Cavaliers receive: Isaiah Todd, Jeremiah Robinson-Earl & Tre Mann
Thunder receive: Ricky Rubio & 2 2nds ('25 & '26 via Cavs)
Why?
Cleveland adds bench depth.
Thunder get some assets for guys they might cut.
16 Oct 2023 16:27:43
Thunder needs assets?
16 Oct 2023 17:27:44
Meant Isaiah Joe, not Todd.
09 Oct 2023 19:46:01
The prime of Irving and Embiid are quite similar over the next 3-4 years. Ask yourselfs, if you add Embiid to NY, Orlando, OKC, Nets, Bulls, Hornets or Rockets, will you immediatelly in it all?
But if you add Embiid to Dallas, you may win immeditally!
Mavs offer 4 x 1st picks, that is a lot for Embiid, maybe the best Center/Forward but becomes 30y and has never play more than 60 games a season!
Before the voices go up, Mavs do not have picks, wait a second. First you send Lively, a very good Rookie, if y ask Towns or Gobert they say "it is a good one"!
You have Prosper and Hardy or you send Prosper to NY or Wizards and Hardy to Orlando or Toronto to get a first back on each and you send Mavs 2026 1st.
DAL Embiid, Bamba (TE)
PHX Embiid, 3xst, Hardaway, Holmes
ORL Hardy
WIZ Prosper
09 Oct 2023 20:39:38
Ok, do not drink Scotch and post . it is PHI that gets Lively :: ) )
09 Oct 2023 23:03:18
Embiid won't want to play for a lottery team.
10 Oct 2023 09:01:52
You are right, :) this is why he goes to Dallas. ;)
10 Oct 2023 21:14:31
The only player on Dallas's team that would be worth a 1st Rd pick is Doncic. Granted, you would get quite a few by trading him, but Hardy and Prosper are both worth a late 2nd Rd pick at best. Embiid won't be traded to Dallas without Doncic being moved, and what's the point if it costs you Doncic?
10 Oct 2023 21:50:22
You have to respect different oppinions - also if you think they are highly nonsence. So if you think, I do different and some GM as well.
11 Oct 2023 12:04:14
We actually don't have to respect different opinions, especially when certain opinions are based in fantasy land and not reality.
16 Oct 2023 19:29:20
Do you cite Mr. Trump? ; )
08 Oct 2023 14:12:09
Okc - siakam
Tor- jalen williams, bertans, oladipo & 3 1sts
Giddey mann wiggins wallace
Sga micic
Dort Joe Dieng
Siakam robinson-earl K williams
Chet JWilliams poku
Schroder flynn
Williams trent oladipo
OG mcdaniels porter
Barnes young bertans
Poeltl boucher achiuwa koloko
09 Oct 2023 08:31:25
OKC is building something nice.
They don't need an aging star.
13 Oct 2023 02:42:36
Williams has more value than Siakam himself due to his age, team control, and potential. There is no way any of their young stars are included for an expiring contract.
06 Oct 2023 02:56:10
Siakam is a great fit for the Thunder
Okc - siakam
Tor- dort, oladipo, dieng & multiple picks
06 Oct 2023 14:57:15
Williams/ Chet/ Giddy. If OKC wants an all star caliber guy, they have to give up one. Can’t keep them all.
07 Oct 2023 09:22:41
You got ayton williams brogdon and picks for lillard and lillard is a superstar. This isn't impossible.
08 Oct 2023 06:46:48
What a team has to offer plays a role in what the return is. OKC has three incredibly desirable young guys. No one is trading a star to them unless they get one.
I’d also argue that Ayton and Williams are far more valuable than anyone OKC trades here. Especially in the Blazers FO eyes.
06 Oct 2023 02:41:33
PHILADELPHIA 76ERS HYPOTHETICAL REBUILD
Trade 1 -
Los Angeles Clippers get: James Harden, PJ Tucker, Daniel House Jr.
Philadelphia 76ers get: Terence Mann, Nic Batum, Robert Covington, Marcus Morris Sr., '28 & '30 unprotected 1sts (via LAC)
Trade 2 -
Oklahoma City Thunder get: Joel Embiid, Tobias Harris, Jaden Springer
- (if so new lineup: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jalen Williams, Tobias Harris, Chet Holmgren, Joel Embiid?)
Charlotte Hornets get: Lu Dort, Kenrich Williams, Davis Bertans
Philadelphia 76ers get: Josh Giddey, Aleksej Pokusevski, Ousmane Dieng, Vasilijie Micic, Gordon Hayward (bought out), Victor Oladipo (waived), '24 top-4 protected 1st (from OKC, via HOU), '24 unprotected 2nd (from CHA, via BOS), returned '25 1st (from OKC, via PHI), '26 unprotected 1st (from OKC, via LAC), '27 top-5 protected 1st (from OKC, via DEN), '27 unprotected 2nd (from CHA, via POR or NOP), '28 unprotected 2nd (from CHA, via LAC), '29 top-5 protected 1st (from OKC, via DEN), rights to swap '28 & '30 1sts (via OKC)
76ers Rotation After Trades
PG De'Anthony Melton / Vasilijie Micic / Patrick Beverley
SG Tyrese Maxey / Terance Mann / Furkan Korkmaz
SF Josh Giddey / Kelly Oubre Jr. / Nic Batum
PF Ousmane Dieng / Robert Covington / Marcus Morris Sr.
C Paul Reed / Aleksej Pokusevski / Mohamed Bamba
26 Sep 2023 17:27:54
Cle - Bkn - Okc
Cle- DFS, Dort & 1st from okc
- let Mobley play the 5. Adds 2 excellent wing defenders to compliment their "big 3"
Garland/Levert
Mitchell/Merill
Dort/Strus
DFS/Niang
Mobley/Wade
Bkn- Pokusevski, Okoro & 2 2nds from Cle
- gets a young stretch big & lessen redundancy at forward position
Simmons/Dinwiddie
Bridges/Whitehead
Oneale/Okoro
Johnson/Pokusevski
Claxton/Sharpe
Okc- Allen
- gets an inside presence and let Chet play the 4
SGA/Mann/Wallace
Giddey/Joe/Oladipo
Williams/Dieng/Robinson-Earl
Chet/Bertans/Williams
Allen/Williams
26 Sep 2023 23:43:28
Cleveland declines. DFS is 30 & Dort is undersized.
25 Sep 2023 11:53:20
Houston gets-
M. Brogdon
Houston gives-
KPJ, J. Tate, 2024 2nd via OKC, 2025 2nd (own), 2025 2nd via OKC, 2026 2nd (own)
Dump KPJ and get the perfect 3rd guard, obviously contingent on Brogdon passing a physical.
Indiana gets-
J. Tate
Indians gives-
D. Theis
Theis doesn't fit the fast style Indy wants to play. They already have Turner, Jackson, and Smith, and could use a veteran defensive forward.
Washington gets-
KPJ (waive), 2024 1st via Boston (lottery protected), 2024 2nd via OKC, 2025 2nd via Hou, 2025 2nd via OKC
Washington gives-
T. Jones
Collecting assets, I don't believe Tyus Jones are in their future plans.
Boston gets-
T. Jones, D. Theis, 2026 2nd via Hou
Boston gives-
M. Brogdon, 2024 1st (own, lottery protected) (waive Banton)
Get the perfect back up PG and a familiar quality depth big. Better financial flexibility going forward. Gives a 1st but still has one from GS, and picks up a potentially valuable 2nd.
25 Sep 2023 13:50:20
Good idea.
20 Sep 2023 12:19:48
Miami Heat receive: G Damian Lillard, F P.J. Tucker, F Kyle Anderson, '25 MIA 1st
Thunder receive: G Keon Johnson, '26 MIA 1st
Timberwolves receive: G James Harden, G De'Anthony Melton
76ers receive: G Tyler Herro, G Mike Conley Jr., F Haywood Highsmith
Blazers receive: G Kyle Lowry, F Davis Bertans, F Jaime Jaquez Jr., G Wendell Moore Jr., F Nikola Jovic, '24, '28, & '30 MIA 1sts, '25 MIN 2nd via UTA, '26 MIA 2nd via LAL, '29 & '30 MIN 2nds, rights to swap '25, '27, & '29 MIA 1sts
21 Sep 2023 14:01:38
Minnesota want no part of Harden.
26 Sep 2023 14:41:34
Agreed. The Wolves would never put a malcontent like Harden next to Ant. That’s beyond even the Gobert trade level of stupid.
12 Sep 2023 15:57:31
Heat get: Damian Lillard, Ben Simmons, '25 lottery-protected 1st (from OKC, via MIA)
Thunder get: Kyle Lowry, '26 unprotected 1st (via MIA)
Nets get: Tyler Herro, Caleb Martin, Davis Bertans
Trail Blazers get: Duncan Robinson, Victor Oladipo, Cam Thomas, Haywood Highsmith, '24, '28, & '30 unprotected 1sts (via MIA), '25 & '27 unprotected 1sts (from BKN, via PHX), '26 unprotected 2nd (from MIA, via LAL), rights to swap '25, '27, & '29 1sts (via MIA)
- Heat use Dame's request as leverage to keep Jovic & Jaquez Jr. out of the package. They take on a giant salary in Simmons, but nab their big fish and hope Ben rebounds with Heat culture.
- Thunder get a better pick from the Heat and get out from any of the Bertans' guaranteed money for next season, for their assistance in the Dame trade.
- Nets move off from Ben Simmons and get a dynamic young scorer in Tyler Herro, a very good role player in Martin & Bertans who's salary is only $5M guaranteed for the '24-'25 season. A rotation of Herro/Bridges/Johnson/Finney-Smith/Claxton with Dinwiddie/Walker/O'Neale/Martin/Sharpe coming off the bench is as good as they could ask for one year removed from the KD era.
- Blazers oblige with the Heat as they realize they are the only trade partner but nab five first round picks, multiple swaps, and cap flexibility in the process. Cam Thomas also would have a chance to showcase his skills and Robinson and Highsmith could wind up being valuable rotational pieces.
12 Sep 2023 21:15:17
Dude, we already covered this. OKC gets Miami's 2026 unprotected first if it doesn't convey in 2025. There is absolutely no reason for them to take on Lowry's salary for literally nothing.
OKC's GM Sam Presti does not roll this way.
07 Sep 2023 20:47:40
Okc- giannis
Mil- chet, jalen williams, dort, 3 1sts & 2 swaps
Can swap giddey with jalen williams if milwaukee want. Can add micic too
As long as sga and giannis are in tact
SGA
Giddey or williams
Dieng
Giannis
Pokusevski
Bench
Mann
Micic
Oladipo
Wallace
Robinson-earl
Bertans
Williams
Williams
08 Sep 2023 15:39:41
If OKC wants Giannis, the package would start with SGA. SGA, Chet, Dort, probably 5 1st Rd picks, and swaps. OKC would have to gut their team and their treasure trove of picks to get him.
08 Sep 2023 18:33:08
@ShaqIsBack I disagree. That would be a horrific overpay for Giannis. I would counter with Jalen Williams, Chet Holmgren, Josh Giddey, 5 firsts & 3 swaps.
08 Sep 2023 19:23:07
No superstar trade is going to include a superstar going back. That’s just not how it works Shaq. By trading SGA, the acquisition of Giannis becomes pointless.
It’s like saying Portland wants Bam for Dame. It’s a nonstarter.
OKC also has headliner quality assets (Chet, Williams, Giddy) . It’s not like they don’t have elite assets to offer.
08 Sep 2023 20:35:46
I agree with BMiller. Giannis' value is probably higher but SGA would never be included.
09 Sep 2023 22:53:00
I understand everything y'all are saying. What I'm saying is Milwaukee won't trade Giannis to OKC if it doesn't start with SGA. Williams and Chet might be good players, they might not be. Time will tell. Giannis is an all NBA superstar. They need to be compensated for that if they do trade him.
10 Sep 2023 05:06:05
But the Bucks will never get a player of SGA’s level for Giannis. Period. It’s not an option. Getting two elite prospects is the best they could hope for.
When you trade a superstar, you get unknown prospects. That’s just how this works. And the trio of Chet/ Williams/ Giddy are about as good of prospects as you could ever want in a deal like this.
07 Sep 2023 13:20:10
Heat get: Lillard, Nurkic, Bertans, '25 MIA 1st
76ers get: Herro,Robinson, Highsmith, Oladipo
Clips get: Harden, Tucker, House, '26 LAL 2nd
Thunder get: Lowry, '26 MIA 1st
Blazers get: Mann, Jaquez, '24, '28, & '30 MIA 1sts, '25, '27, & '29 MIA swaps, '28 LAC 1st, 4 expirings (Batum, Covington, Morris, Korkmaz)
Analysis:
Heat
* Get their big fish and manage to keep Caleb Martin and Nikola Jovic out of the deal by taking back salary.
76ers
* They trade a disgruntled Harden for a young dynamic scorer in Herro, keeping them competitive.
Clippers
* Add a third top 30 player into the mix with Kawhi & PG for a poo-poo plater of Mann, expirings, & a 1st.
Blazers
* Ultimately get cap relief (dumping Nurkic, taking back expirings), two young rotation pieces (Mann, Jaquez Jr.), and a stockpile of draft picks (four 1sts & 3 swaps) for their franchise guy who is 33 & doesn't want to wait around for a rebuilding era in Portland.
Thunder
* Get a more favorable pick from Miami in '26 as opposed to the protected pick in '25, and dump a very bad contract with Bertans in the process.
07 Sep 2023 15:13:21
Jovic has to be added too. Miami can’t keep either of their ok prospects and get Dame. Just not happening.
07 Sep 2023 21:24:40
OKC already gets Miami's 2026 unprotected first if the 2025 does not convey.
There is zero reason here for OKC to take on Lowry's contract.
08 Sep 2023 21:14:19
horrible return for Portland. Let's dispel this superficial gunk. Salary cap space is needed to prepare for valuable free agents and/ or resigning/ extending key players. As everyone says, in-demand free agents don't want to go to Portland and Scoot and Sharpe extensions/ resigning are a few years out. So little value of salary cap relief in '24 in a rebuild. Swaps going from top 5 teams to bottom five teams are worth zero. And 4 picks going 7 years into the future that will all be nearly second round picks? Oh yeah, and Portland needs front court players, not 3rd, 4th, 5th string shooting guards.
28 Aug 2023 23:42:39
Philadelphia - Oklahoma
Philadelphia get Victor Oladipo, Davis Bertans, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick
Oklahoma get Tobias Harris
Shai/Mann/Wiggins
Giddey/Micic/Joe
Dort/Jalen/Dieng
Harris/Jaylin/Robinson-Earl
Holmgren/Pokusevski
Harris helps the Thunder compete, Sixers move on and get a bit asset for Tobias
29 Aug 2023 10:35:28
i like this trade
They can get another star if they can get picks for Harden too, or they can use the pick in a package with harden for a star.
18 Aug 2023 09:17:11
Clippers:J Harden
Pacers:P George
Sixers: B Hield+ Theis+ McConnell+1rnd pick Indy 24+ 1rnd pick 24 (least favorable OKC or clippers)
Harden is a better fit next to K Leonard, Harden can lead the team during the year and K Leonard can take over in the playoffs.
P George finds a well balanced team in Indiana
C:Turner/Jackson
PF:toppin/wallace/J smith
SF:P George/Nesmith/Nwora
SG:B Brown/Mathurin/Sheppard
PG:Haliburton/Nembhard
Philly gets a good player back, in B Hield, who fits Embbiid's game and they get two draft picks back, they can use to get another good player.
18 Aug 2023 20:50:21
George is being stolen.
18 Aug 2023 22:24:47
PG is 33, injuryprone and a free agent asking for a big contract next year. 2 first rounders and Hield is not a bad deal for him.
19 Aug 2023 12:11:47
This trade has the Clips getting Harden for him.
15 Aug 2023 12:20:35
Heat:Embiid
OKC:Adebayo
Philly: Holmgren+ D Robinson+Bertrans+ 1rnd pick Philly 25 (return from OKC)+ 1rnd pick Heat 27
The Heat get the best player
OKC can built arround Adebayo-SGA
Philly can restart, getting their 25 pick back and a young talent in Holmgren
15 Aug 2023 13:17:42
Unfortunatelly that is not a bad trade. and OKC can send 3x1st round picks (having plenty of them) when the young Adebayo works for OKC. A lot 1st gives PHI a restart with Maxey and Holmgren when Head go for win now having Embiid, BadBoy and trade for Lillard . but it is no a simplel two team trade, a lot could go wrong - so Mavs need to speed up for Embiid : )
15 Aug 2023 16:56:53
Not enough, add Giddey and more picks.
16 Aug 2023 17:12:58
Both of those 1sts cancel out when taking Robinson and Bertans. 76ers need way more.