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13 Apr 2021 09:11:39
Indy:SG Alexander

OKC: Bitadze+ 1rnd pick Indy 2021 (top 3 protected)+2023 (unprotected)+2025(top 10 protected)

13 Apr 2021 20:58:15
Gasupo what is going on with your posts lately? OKC doesn't need picks.

13 Apr 2021 09:08:05
OKC: Ingram

NO: Tatum

Boston: SG Alexander+ KAT+ Rubio

Wolves: Horford+K Walker +1rnd pick NO 2021+2023+2025+1rnd pick Clippers 2022+ 1rnd pick Boston 2021

Boston:
C: KAT
PF:G Williams
SF:J Brown
SG:Smart
PG:SG Alexander

NO:
C:Adams
PF:Zion
SF:Tatum
SG:J Hart
PG:L Ball

13 Apr 2021 12:46:13
Too much salary going to the Wolves. Also, SGA's contract i sover.

13 Apr 2021 16:26:16
OKC is not trading SGA. Unless owner is selling team.

14 Apr 2021 02:42:11
If Bennett sold the Thunder SGA would be sold with the team.

11 Apr 2021 11:57:00
Boston: SG Alexander+Horford

OKC: T Harris+Milton+ 1rnd pick Philly 2021 and 2023

Philly: J Brown+ T Thompson

11 Apr 2021 12:43:56
When I saw the first part I thought oh he's got Boston trading Kemba, getting Horford for him makes some sense. A couple of seconds go by, say what?

11 Apr 2021 13:04:12
Thunder say hell no.

11 Apr 2021 13:08:35
Huge no from OKC.

11 Apr 2021 14:55:00
Thunder won’t trade SGA and Boston won’t trade Brown.

11 Apr 2021 18:37:21
I can see okc doing the trade not Boston.

04 Apr 2021 05:59:35
UPDATE KNICKS CLIPPERS IDEA

NY get PG Morris Beverly
Clippers get 15 17 32 47 picks


No team can absorb 79 mil in salaries accept the knicks next yr once they trade Knox. Leonard and Ibaka opt out to resign longer term deals to give them cap space. With salary at 122mil. This give Clippers about 92 mil cap space. J.Green and Harrell 4yr 48 mil. DeRozan and Leonard sign 4yr 110mil. Lowry 2yr 40 mil. Ibaka Mle

Turner for Zubac 21 23 Clippers 1st

Lowry/Rondo/D.Mitchell-16
DeRozan/Mann/C.Thomas-20
Leonard/Kennard/Scrubb
Green/Harrell/Prokacin-32
Turner/Ibaka/Timme-47

Hornets get Quickley NY 22 2nd
OKC get Beverly Dal 23 1st
Knicks get Rozier 53rd 55th and 57th

Toppin Knox for Bamba 34th
sign Burks 3yr 15 mil
2 Jazz 2nd for Jordan Nwora
Rose

Rozier/Rose/Ntilikina
Barrett/Burks/Clarke-53
George/Morris/Nwora/Todd-55
Randle/Morris/I.Jackson-34th
Robinson/Bamba/Queta-57

This should put Clippers on paper ahead of anybody the West. This should give NY a good chance compete against the east elite. Thibodeau will help motivate PG back to the best version of himself.

04 Apr 2021 14:47:37
May NY can add Mamba and Wil and Air as well.

04 Apr 2021 18:32:45
Ring Ring, when you have 74 mil cap space and multiple picks, you have opts. Something you don't have. Dallas has 38 mil next yr and only future from 24 or 25 to trade.

Knicks can make the same offer for Beal Westbrook and nobody can match. But they will have to include toppin Knox Barrett Quickley if wizards include Bertan instead of picks or Russell Towns Rubio for picks Robinson Quickley Barrett. Or keep picks and everyone in current rookie deals and sign Ball/ Lowry-pg Trentjr/ Oladipo/ DeRozan-SG J. Green-SF Drummond/ Holmes-C just examples. Point is we have more options than any team do. So let's see what they do.

Your stuck with injury prone unicorn and white breaded super hero Luka. Important summer for you to add a 3rd star. Because Luka will demand 50 mil per yr in his 1st contract extension in the summer of 2022-23.

07 Apr 2021 16:49:06
I fear NY does as well they did the last 10y - sry man : )

But hope the best for y! The Mavs will trade for Beal and sign Holmes and become even better. ; ) a.

08 Apr 2021 15:21:27
Nobody wants to play for either of your teams, which is why you have to trade or overpay for players.

23 Mar 2021 16:36:58
I’ll call this a blockbuster.
ATL gets Bagley, Hield, Haliburton
SAC. gets Collins, Bogdanovic, Rondo and 2023 first (better of OKC or ATL)

To me, this makes sense for both teams. Atl gets a modest downgrade at PF (and for another year) . but gets their running mate for Trae, and the back-up point they need. SAC gets their young, star, PF of the future, a SG that works there, and a replacement but aging back-up PG plus a decent (probably not lotto) first round pick.

23 Mar 2021 16:54:44
This is a huge no from the Kings.

23 Mar 2021 17:15:43
I call it a big dream. Bogdan is not coming back to Sac.

And you keep Rondo and we keep Halliburton.

23 Mar 2021 23:14:35
outside Haliburton and Holmes. All Kings have negative value despite there statically number bc of defense.

24 Mar 2021 01:38:37
Kings should keep Haliburton and try to make a deal of Hield + Bagley + a future first for Collins and Bogi.

24 Mar 2021 10:39:09
Quite possibly the dumbest idea, Websjac.

22 Mar 2021 08:20:25
Miami: lowry, powell, second round pick from dallas

Dallas: dragic, iguadala, baynes

Toronto: hardaway jr, James Johnson, herro, 2025 first round pick from Miami, second round pick from dallas

Okc: second round pick from dallas to make 2023 Miami first round pick unprotected so Miami can move their 2025 first round pick.

22 Mar 2021 09:13:22
Seems like too much from Miami’s perspective.

22 Mar 2021 11:20:54
I love Herro, but eh. . . Lowry AND Powell? I'm hesitant.

22 Mar 2021 13:56:06
I agree with Darry. I think Toronto is going to want to keep one of them to resign next year. I don't see them trading away both. maybe if Miami added the 27 1st. seems like Lowry for Herro and a 1st is reasonable, but only a 2nd for Powell is a big underpay.

22 Mar 2021 19:04:23
I’m a raps fan and I think 90% of raps fans overvalue our players. Miami would never do Herro and a 1st for Lowry. Lowry is the better players but he’s older and declining, overpaid and a UFA. And Powell probably fetches a 1st and Nunn.

21 Mar 2021 05:27:41
Pelicans/Clippers/Thunder

Clippers get JJ Redick George Hill Wenyen Gabriel

Pelicans get Patrick Beverley Patrick Patterson 2024 second round pick.via Clippers 2024 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Thunder get Lou Williams 2022 second round pick.via Hawks from Clippers

20 Mar 2021 02:09:02
Pelicans get Beverly, Hill, 2 seconds via Clippers

Clippers get Ball

OKC gets Bledsoe, 1st via Clips

Pelicans swap out point guards. Hill is a chameleon and can play on or off ball. He can be a good fit in almost any offense. Bringing Beverly off the bench could celebrate his defense and energy better. They also offload the Bledsoe deal.

Clips get their target in Lonzo. Who knows if that puts them over the top, but they definitely get an upgrade.

Thunder lose a great locker room guy and a positive on the court... they take in one of the worst contracts on the trade block for yet another first.

20 Mar 2021 03:26:05
Ball > Beverly. Bledsoe > Hill. Lousy for Pels.

20 Mar 2021 08:07:25
Clips have a first to trade?

25 Mar 2021 18:39:49
Fredman, anything can happen happen and usually does in Churchpugh’s little world.

18 Mar 2021 19:31:03
OKC gets Bledsoe, 2024 Lakers 1st

Nets get Hill, 2027 Heat 2nd via OKC

NOP gets Dinwiddie

***OKC takes on a bad contract, get an asset. Nets get an older, cheaper, healthier version of Dinwiddie (plus the second from the Ariza deal). Pelicans rid themselves of Bledsoe at the cost of a first while getting a crack at a year of healthy Dinwiddie next season.

Thoughts?

18 Mar 2021 21:09:04
How Bledsoe a bad contract.

18 Mar 2021 21:26:39
throw in SGA to Knicks and it's a fair deal. how do you turn a pg not playing for a better pg and 1st. it's not even. Pelicans are not making moves for the future. I don't see why OKC is in this trade. horrible idea.

19 Mar 2021 06:11:14
OKC can get a first for Hill without taking on a terrible contract.

19 Mar 2021 11:29:20
Hopper, you're delusional. Bledsoe>Hill. His contract isn't terrible. OKC is NOT getting a 1st for Hill.

19 Mar 2021 15:18:11
Dimwiddie is no better fit for Pels than Bledsoe. And then to give up a first as well. nahhhh.

19 Mar 2021 17:22:17
Bledsoe is making 7 million more per year than Hill and is averaging less points per game. Doesn’t make sense for OKC to take on that contract when they can get a first for Hill anyway.

18 Mar 2021 00:13:23
Thunder/Clippers/Pistons

Clippers get George Hill Josh Jackson 2023 second round pick.via Wizards from Thunder

Thunder get Lou Williams Reggie Jackson Daniel Oturu

Pistons get Patrick Patterson 2022 second round pick.via Hawks from Clippers 2024 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Thunder going to send Daniel Oturu to G-League let him develops his games

18 Mar 2021 13:11:41
Kings would throw a very late 2nd (Lakers) at OKC for Oturu.

20 Mar 2021 14:21:42
Okc could get Williams and Oturo for Hill straight up. It’s pretty much the only way financially Hill ends up on the Clippers without Okc taking on extra $$$ for no reason.
The Might even be able to squeeze a 2nd out of them since Williams would never actually board a plane and suit up for Okc anyway.
Why would Okc take Reggie Jackson so that the Clippers could get Josh Jackson? There’s no incentive or return that would compel them to take on RG’s salary for nothing.
Okc doesn’t want Reggie Jackson back. He was a horrible locker room guy when he played for them the 1st time.

16 Mar 2021 21:32:16
Pistons/Boston/Cavaliers

Boston get Larry Nance Jr Jerami Grant JaVale McGee

Pistons get Grant Williams Aaron Nesmith 2021 first round pick(unprotected).via Boston 2023 first round pick(unprotected).via Boston

Cavaliers get Daniel Theis Semi Ojeleye Romeo Langford 2021 second round pick.via Thunder from Boston

16 Mar 2021 21:18:16
Rockets- Wall, 2021 1st round pick
Thunder- Hill, Maledon, Heat 1st round pick via Okc

Okc pretty much gives away the equivalent of 3 first round picks and gets a very high draft pick in return while taking on a bad contract. Houston gets rid of an albatross contract, while still collecting pieces that will help for their future.

17 Mar 2021 03:38:40
Rockets are rebuilding. Not trading a potential top 3/ 5 pick.

15 Mar 2021 17:59:27
Phoenix-Atlanta-Oklahoma

Phoenix to acquire:Collins,Hill

Atlanta to acquire:Saric,Miller 1nd pick 2021 and 2nd pick 2022 Phoenix

Oklahoma to acquire:Snell,Carter

Phoenix sign Cousins

Paul /Hill
Booker /Moore
Bridges/Crowder
Collins/Johnson
Ayton /Cousins

15 Mar 2021 19:37:08
Don't see any reason for OKC to do this, and Atlanta is looking to compete, not collect picks. They want a nice ready now player for Collins, or hold him for a sign and trade in the summer.

16 Mar 2021 02:28:16
Really Suns are only team that benefit from this trade.

15 Mar 2021 06:24:32
Magic/Thunder

Magic get Darius Bazley Trevor Ariza George Hill

Thunder get Michael Carter Williams Dwayne Bacon Aaron Gordon 2021 second round pick.via Magic 2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic 2023 second round pick.via Magic

Darius Bazley For Aaron Gordon

I am very interested in Darius Bazley he has potential to become a star

Put him with Chuma Okeke Johnathan Issac Cole Anthony Markelle Fultz Mo Bamba that going to be nice young core

15 Mar 2021 12:02:50
Not a bad value but I don't think thunder will want Gordon.

15 Mar 2021 01:31:38
Nuggets get Horford, Hill, Kenny Hustle

Heat get Millsap

Thunder get Harris, Leonard (waive), Hampton, pick from Miami

Horford I think would be such an interesting fit with Jokic. Since jokic plays so much point center, Horford can post up, but he can also spread the floor. He's also a great locker room guy. He can also take on the Embiid assignment in the playoffs if they meet in the finals. They can afford him cap wise. Hill upgrades their bench and gives them another ball handler. He fits anywhere.

Heat get out of an awful situation with Leonard. But they also bring in a super helpful player. That's why the pick.

Okc immediately waives Leonard. They can eat his salary and let him start a new chapter. Harris won't affect the tank but can be their Harden/Jackson/Schroeder super sixth man in a year. They give Hampton a look in the meantime.

Here's a smaller version of the deal if need be...

Okc gets Leonard, Hampton, remove protections on heat picks

Nuggets get Hill, Roby

Heat get Millsap

15 Mar 2021 11:07:43
Smaller version is more realistic.

15 Mar 2021 12:52:09
Huge no from DEnver lol.

13 Mar 2021 14:40:34
This is bold and won't happen but hang with me.

Spurs get Horford, Hill, Muscala

Rockets get Aldridge, Ariza

OKC gets Wall, Gordon, Lyles, Walker, 2021 protected Detroit first, protections removed from Rockets pick 2021

Ok. Horford to the Spurs makes sense in that he's currently better than Aldridge, and he's fantastic in the locker room. Spurs have a lot of young guys and getting three vets to help foster that talent makes sense. Hill is a former spur. All three feel like Spurs guys.

Rockets are in a rough spot. This could be a deal that helps them reset the franchise. A rip the bandaid off kind of move. They bring in all expiring money and offload two long term deals that aren't working. They will lose their pick this year along with another first (via Detroit in the future), but it would be worth it. Getting Aldridge might even put them closer to the middle so they don't lose a top 5 pick anyways.

OKC are set to have an insane amount of cap room in the next couple seasons. Even with the SGA max coming, they can afford a few years of bad contracts. They swallow Wall and Gordon at another couple shots in the draft. Wall and Gordon can eventually be flipped OR be role players to the young guys in 2-4 years. Wall and Gordon can rehab the rest of the year and help the tank as well.

Thoughts?

13 Mar 2021 17:51:27
church you going to have more 1st over the next 4 years than wins.

13 Mar 2021 20:34:08
Bold? Yepp. Happening? Probably not. But I like the concept anyway

15 Mar 2021 02:12:38
Why would the Rockets do this as a rebuilding team. They should be doing what OKC has done the past few years and start collecting picks not giving them away.
Horfords contract is brutal and I doubt Spurs want to take him own as I could see them move towards a rebuild of their own.
Somehow all OKC fans think every other team is out to help them.

18 Mar 2021 04:55:26
Websjac, not all Okc fans think like that.
Churchpugh lives in his own world though. He definitely proposes the most absurd and lopsided trade ideas.
It’s frustrating to read anything he posts EVEN as an Okc fan.
All you can do is either ignore his posts or be prepared to scream at the screen when you read them.
But don’t worry, nobody takes anything from him seriously.

13 Mar 2021 14:05:52
Svi and a 2027 second

For

Hami

So who won the trade? Okc or Detroit?

13 Mar 2021 16:24:45
Both guys are decent get new starts. Neither will be great but seems equal.

13 Mar 2021 18:31:47
Not sure there is a significant difference to clarify someone a winner.

14 Mar 2021 11:51:58
Pistons shouldn't have included a second.

11 Mar 2021 20:25:42
Celtics

Boston gets-
A. Gordon

Magic gets-
T. Thompson (flip?)
G. Williams (keep)
J. Teague for salary cap (waive?)
2021 1st top 10 protected

Boston gets-
W. Ellington

Pistons get-
J. Green
2nd Rd pick via OKC

Sign D. Dedmon vet min

Sign RHJ vet Min

Theis/R. Williams/Dedmon/Fall
Gordon/Ojeleye
Tatum/RHJ/Langford
Brown/Ellington/Nesmith/Edwards
Kemba/Smart/Pritchard/Waters

Boston stays under the tax this year and saves their TPEs for offseason.



Smooth is that enough for Gordon for you?

12 Mar 2021 01:13:58
You'd have to add more youth for Orlando to acknowledge Ainge.

They need to find out what the cost is for John Collins.

Ainge needs to start pulling roses out his butt or he'll be on the outside looking in.

12 Mar 2021 10:46:04
I don't know about more youth. It's a pick in a deep draft, a young player, and a useful veteran they could flip. Gordon is a poor shooter who turns the ball over. I don't think he's ever done anything or can do something that would warrant a better package.

Collins is not worth the combination of asking price for trade and desired salary moving forward.

11 Mar 2021 09:36:06
Magic/Thunder

Thunder get Aaron Gordon

Magic get Trevor Ariza 2022 first round pick(unprotected).via Clippers from Thunder

11 Mar 2021 12:04:32
No from Thunder. Also, can't the Magic get more for Gordon?

11 Mar 2021 13:45:16
Among your weaker ideas, Smooth. why would OKC want Gordon? they haven't been collecting all those picks just to give them away.

11 Mar 2021 14:40:41
A late first round for Gordon is a fair deal.
Gordon is still 25, he can score, shoot and he isn't a bad defender.
I don't think this is a bad trade.
You can't play with rookies and prospects alone.

11 Mar 2021 16:55:09
I don’t think Okc drafts players with every single pick they’ve received. If they get a 2nd star soon somehow (next draft maybe) then they’ll package the rest of the picks for their 3rd star.

10 Mar 2021 21:15:05
Heat - Horford, Dort

Nunn/Dragic
Herro/Bradley
Butler/Dort/Iggy
Adebayo/Achiuwa/Harkless
Horford/Silva

Thunder - Olynyk, Leonard, Robinson

Shai
Maledon
Robinson
Bazley
Olynyk/Pokusevski

11 Mar 2021 14:07:35
I don't see OKC trading out Dort just to get rid of Horford, and I don't see Miami taking on Horford's 3 years.

 
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