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11 Jun 2024 22:24:40
1) Was-Spurs:
Spurs: #2
Was: #4+#8

Atl:K Johnson+Z Collins+ 1rnd pick Hawks 25-27+swap hawks 26+ 1rnd pick Bos 28

SF:Z Risacher
PG:T Young

12 Jun 2024 00:47:00
The Spurs don't own Boston's 2028 pick, they have protected swap rights which may not convey.

13 Jun 2024 16:13:30
I feel like there's a somewhat decent chance Risacher drops to 4, is there that much of a gap between 2 and 4 to warrant also giving up 8, which could be someone like Reed SHeppard / Castle?

14 Jun 2024 10:44:25
So 3 people disagree that the Spurs don't own Boston's 2028 1st. Just look it up?

14 Jun 2024 15:13:41
@ Nightcap
Some people like to disagree on people on this site (not me)

The Boston pick is a swap indeed (that could convey in a second rounnder or not convey at all)

So i change the offer to the 2028 spurs pick (or Boston swap)

28 May 2024 18:23:02
Mavs are in the finals. And if we are honest, Mavs are build to beat the Celtics as well.

Would be boring.

No trades needed anymore. No chats for proposals anymore.

Mavs get the rings.

So keep it easy for next season:

ATL Hardaway, 1st
DAL Hunter

28 May 2024 22:05:03
I like Hunter, but his rep is that he's not worth his contract. Why not keep Jones Jr who'll be much cheaper and keep the 1st?

29 May 2024 07:53:11
Mavs keep Jones Jr. anyways.

Hunter has a stronger body can play sf/ pf. He could be a sleeper like Washington. In any case he is an athletic defender and inside/ outside scorer that Mavs can use in any case. Having Hardy you do not need Hardaway anymore.

29 May 2024 11:52:17
Hunter would look a lot better away from Trae young.

29 May 2024 11:42:02
Not sure Washington is a sleeper, he's no better now than he was before.

30 May 2024 05:16:14
They got Washington for cheap meaning he didn't have a lot of perceived value league wide. His defense has improved significantly and he's playing a role on a winning team very different than putting up numbers on a rubbish team.

30 May 2024 08:21:49
Would you take Brooklyns Bridges over Hunter? Propably yes. : ) But Mavs are already in the Finals (at least those days : ) and Hunter would improve the team. Y do not need more, than to win. Even if Mavs could affords the asset to trade for Bridges it may be an option to keep assets for trades in the future - Kyrie will not play for ever.

30 May 2024 12:55:28
They did not get Washington for cheap, and in fact overpaid for him when factoring in what they had just given up to get Grant Williams. Horrible asset management, which they have a history of (Brunson) .

30 May 2024 16:29:32
As a Hawks fan I like the deal but it wouldn't work because of Bogdanavic. Hardaway would have to be a 6th man for us.

01 Jun 2024 02:12:49
Yeah Washington actually wasn't cheap but sunken cost on Williams. If they can keep Luka the pick will be trash anyway . Kyrie better fit than brunson.

24 May 2024 07:57:23
Celtics:Garland+J Allen+ 1rnd pick Cle

Cle:J Brown+Brissett

C:J Allen

24 May 2024 10:10:49
Not legal and what happened to Jrue?

24 May 2024 16:29:45
Not a fan of Brown, I'd rather look elsewhere. The fit with Mitchell isn't great either.

31 Mar 2024 23:48:22

Celtics trade: Payton Pritchard, Jordan Walsh, #30, #48

Celtics receive: Alex Caruso, Ty Jerome (TPE)

Cavaliers trade: Georges Niang, Ty Jerome, Craig Porter Jr., #25, 2025 2nd, MIL 2025 2nd, DEN 2027 2nd

Cavaliers receive: Mo Wagner, Shake Milton, Ben Sheppard, #42, MIL 2027 2nd

Bucks trade: Pat Connaughton, MarJon Beauchamp, Chris Livingston, #26, #35

Bucks receive: Bogdan Bogdanovic

Knicks trade: Mitchell Robinson, #42, MIL 2025 1st, BKN 2025 2nd

Knicks receive: Dorian Finney-Smith, Jarace Walker (TPE), Dru Smith

76ers trade: Paul Reed, #15, MIL 2027 2nd

76ers receive: Payton Pritchard (TPE), Pat Connaughton, #48

Heat trade: Dru Smith, Orlando Robinson, LAL 2026 2nd

Heat receive: Paul Reed, Seth Curry

Pacers trade: Jarace Walker, Ben Sheppard, 2025 2nd, UTA 2027 2nd

Pacers receive: Chris Boucher, Orlando Robinson, Jordan Walsh, #26, ORL 2025 2nd

Magic trade: Mo Wagner, Joe Ingles, Jett Howard, Caleb Houstan, #21, #45, DEN 2025 1st, 2025 2nd

Magic receive: Mitchell Robinson, Georges Niang, Craig Porter Jr., #30, BKN 2025 2nd

Bulls trade: Lonzo Ball, Alex Caruso

Bulls receive: Ben Sheppard, Jalen McDaniels, MIL 2025 1st

Hawks trade: Bogdan Bogdanovic

Hawks receive: Lonzo Ball (TPE), Jett Howard, #21, IND 2025 2nd

Nets trade: Dorian Finney-Smith

Nets receive: Joe Ingles, #15, DEN 2027 2nd, UTA 2027 2nd

Raptors trade: Chris Boucher, Jalen McDaniels

Raptors receive: Caleb Houstan, MarJon Beauchamp, #25, CLE 2025 2nd

Hornets trade: Cody Martin, Seth Curry

Hornets receive: Landry Shamet, #26

Wizards trade: Landry Shamet

Wizards receive: Cody Martin, #45, LAL 2026 2nd

Pistons trade: Shake Milton

Pistons receive: Jalen McDaniels, Chris Livingston #35, MIL 2025 2nd

Thoughts? Who says no?

01 Apr 2024 13:22:04
Why would the pacers do this?

09 Apr 2024 03:00:39
to be honest, they don't have a good reason to. But for 1 team out of 15, it'd be pretty easy to transfer another first to them or something.

17 Apr 2024 22:41:18
Hell no as a Magic fan.

03 Dec 2023 16:08:14
Celtics: Westbrook+ 2rnd pick 24

03 Dec 2023 19:30:36
I would love Westbrook as a 6th man on Boston but on his current contract he has much more value than this. Also doubt he's available, think he'd have to ask out.

04 Dec 2023 00:12:32
Someone will offer more if Westbrook wants out.

04 Dec 2023 07:43:41
I can't see another team making a move for Westbrook.
He would want to go to a contender and i don't see the clippers trading him to a team in the West.

The Bucks can't use him and i don't think Philly would want him.

04 Dec 2023 21:27:03
you have the 2rnd pick going in the wrong direction.

18 Nov 2023 07:06:28
Boston is a title contending team, but they are missing a few pieces to be winning on a consistent basis. There are some pieces I feel they need to fill

Boston gets: Jordan Clarkson, THT

Utah gets: Prichard, brissett, Steven's, 3 first round picks.

Sign: Demarcus cousins, Isaiah Thomas

PG: Holiday/Thomas
SG: White/Clarkson/Banton
SF: Brown/THT/Hauser
PF: Tatum/horford
C: KP/ Cousins/Kornet

This gives Boston depth and lineups to use when they play teams with multiple bigs.

18 Nov 2023 10:54:19
Maybe 3 rnd picks.

18 Nov 2023 11:16:55
salaries way off. value waaaaaay off.

19 Nov 2023 11:09:00
Sign Isaiah Thomas? Wow. Are you living in the past. Lol And Cousins? That's crazy.
A dozen games into the season with only 2 losses and you think there are several pieces missing? That's funny right there.
Their only need at the moment is a big man that's better than Kornet.

17 Oct 2023 16:57:21
Atl: J Brown+Isaac
Bost:T Young+C Capela+1rnd pick Sac 24+1rnd pick Denver 24
Magic:D White

PG:T Young


18 Oct 2023 10:53:35
Brown can't be traded until after next years draft.

01 Oct 2023 18:49:57
The Celtics are sending center Robert Williams III, guard Malcolm Brogdon, a 2024 first-round pick via Golden State and a 2029 first-round pick to the Blazers, sources said.

I pretty much nailed this one in previous comments.

01 Oct 2023 19:04:40
He's hurt a lot but it's tough losing Williams. He's an absolute beast.

01 Oct 2023 21:23:36
Willams @ PF? Grant @ SF Ayton @ C.

02 Oct 2023 04:52:44
I think timelird is backing up Ayton & Grant. until Grant is moved.

02 Oct 2023 13:48:52
Hell no MD. That would be terrible. Grant isn’t a full time SF. Ayton shouldn’t be a full time PF.

Local media expects the starters to be Scoot, Simons, Thybulle, Grant, Ayton.

30 Sep 2023 10:57:08
Jrue Holiday sweepstake,
Teams possible offer:

Celtics: Brogdon, Horford and filler plus picks (1st rd, 2nd rd or swap)

Heat: Lowry, Jaquez/Jovic and filler plus picks (1st rd, 2nd rd or swap)

Sixers: Harden going to a third team.. picks (1st rd, 2nd rd or swap) to Blazers plus third team return players and picks

Raptors: OG or GT, Young and Dick plus picks (1st rd, 2nd rd or swap)

Knicks: Fournier, Quickley and filler/s plus picks (1st rd, 2nd rd of swap)
*not unless they are willing to give up Barrett + Fournier

30 Sep 2023 12:19:25
I don't see Boston trading Horford, he's their one guy who can do a credible job on Embiid and Giannis. If Boston did trade for Holiday, which I see as unlikely due to financial reasons, I see the offer being something like this-

J. Walsh or S. Hauser
B. Griffin S & T
Draft compensation

Portland has extra roster spots available but there would likely be multiple teams involved.

Griffin can be signed for about 3.5 mil per year, with only the 1st year guaranteed. He can be waived. Boston can then fill out their roster with vet minimums but it will put them in the 2nd apron.

01 Oct 2023 13:44:27
S&T requires 3 fully guaranteed non-option years. Specifically so teams don’t do that.

01 Oct 2023 14:55:40
Bmiller, not true, and it's been done before. Boston has done it before.

02 Oct 2023 10:25:16
Just heard Bobby Marks say that on Friday, he believed this was going to be the trade instead of including Williams. He specifically said it would have included Blake Griffin in a sign and trade.

29 Sep 2023 08:36:26
bos: Jr Holiday
Por: Horford+Brogdon+ 1rnd pick Bos 24

29 Sep 2023 10:53:02
Unrealistic for several reasons.

29 Sep 2023 17:47:45
Horrible for Portland.

30 Sep 2023 09:00:07
You need to offer Brogdon+Williams+Pritchard+1rnd pick Bos 24 just for POR to start listening.

27 Sep 2023 19:06:45
Jrue Holiday heading elsewhere? It's weird but he could be a good fit with Miami. Lmao.

Pelicans would be a great fit but again contracts will be a problem. How about Celtics?

Brogdon + additional player for salary 1st round pick, pick swap for Jrue?


Would be deadly

27 Sep 2023 20:27:12
Brogdon is far, far from what Portland is looking for in return. The only way that makes any sense for Portland is if Robert Williams is included with Bogdon.

27 Sep 2023 20:34:07
Brogdon and Williams for Jrue makes a lot of sense to me.

27 Sep 2023 20:37:02
Dark horse for Jrue after Dec 15th?

LA Lakers. Hachimura+Russell+ Picks?

28 Sep 2023 03:52:34
Starting to hear some Jrue Holiday to Toronto right after the trade went down.

29 Sep 2023 02:00:22
Would love to see Pels reunite w Jrue.

25 Sep 2023 11:53:20
Houston gets-
M. Brogdon

Houston gives-
KPJ, J. Tate, 2024 2nd via OKC, 2025 2nd (own), 2025 2nd via OKC, 2026 2nd (own)

Dump KPJ and get the perfect 3rd guard, obviously contingent on Brogdon passing a physical.

Indiana gets-
J. Tate

Indians gives-
D. Theis

Theis doesn't fit the fast style Indy wants to play. They already have Turner, Jackson, and Smith, and could use a veteran defensive forward.

Washington gets-
KPJ (waive), 2024 1st via Boston (lottery protected), 2024 2nd via OKC, 2025 2nd via Hou, 2025 2nd via OKC

Washington gives-
T. Jones

Collecting assets, I don't believe Tyus Jones are in their future plans.

Boston gets-
T. Jones, D. Theis, 2026 2nd via Hou

Boston gives-
M. Brogdon, 2024 1st (own, lottery protected) (waive Banton)

Get the perfect back up PG and a familiar quality depth big. Better financial flexibility going forward. Gives a 1st but still has one from GS, and picks up a potentially valuable 2nd.

25 Sep 2023 13:50:20
Good idea.

21 Sep 2023 07:21:24
IND/BKN/BOS/CLE eastern shake up

IND get Isaac Okoro, Dean Wade & pick swap from CLE, 2 2nds (CLE/BOS)
- pick swap from CLE could be changed to a 1st round pick if IND prefers, that's negotiable. Someone could give a 1st for Hield. Pacers add a young guy they can develop

Pg Haliburton/McConnell
Sg Brown/Nembhard
Sf Mathurin/Okoro/Nwora
Pf Toppin/Walker/Jackson
Ce Turner/Theis/Wade

BKN get Malcolm Brogdon & BOS 2nd round pick
- Nets have a good wing depth already, they can use a backup vet guard

Pg Dinwiddie/Brogdon/Smith Jr
Sg Bridges/Walker/Whitehead
Sf Oneale/Thomas/Bazley
Pf Johnson/Simmons
Ce Claxton/Giles/Clowney

BOS get Buddy Hield & Dayron Sharpe
- gets a shooter to add more firepower

Pg White/Pritchard
Sg Brown/Hield/Banton
Sf Tatum/Hauser/Mykhailuk
Pf Porzingis/Brissett/Kornet
Ce Williams/Horford/Sharpe

CLE get Dorean Finney-Smith
- gets a starting caliber SF, a piece ready to compete with the team. Adds line up flexibility as they can have Mobley play the 5 and DFS at 4

Pg Garland/Levert/Rubio
Sg Mitchell/Strus/Bates
Sf DFS/Merill/Jerome
Pf Mobley/Niang
Ce Allen/Mobley/Jones

21 Sep 2023 19:06:47
For Boston, I'm not a fan of Hield, but I also don't like Brogdon on Boston. Hield's durability, expiring contract, and the young big makes it a yes for me.

21 Sep 2023 22:32:30
Cleveland making out like bandits here.

21 Sep 2023 22:39:18
Absolute yes from Cleveland.

17 Sep 2023 09:22:42
Celtics: Garland+ J Allen
Cavs: J Brown+M Brogdon

17 Sep 2023 11:38:38
Brown can't be traded for about 11 months.

18 Sep 2023 09:26:11
i think he can be traded from januari 21.

19 Sep 2023 19:01:34
@gasupo Brown is ineligible to be traded until July 26, 2024.

25 Aug 2023 13:27:25
Saw this one and modified a bit

Pels. Lillard

Clips. CJ MCCollum

Por. Powell. Morris Sr Daniels Boston JrLewis Jr 2024 2025 and 2027 1sts from Nola.

26 Aug 2023 03:16:59
Not the pieces Portland is looking for.

26 Aug 2023 19:56:23
Daniels would be a solid get for Portland. Powell would slot in as the 4th string SG. The rest are other team's throw-aways.

01 Aug 2023 15:48:18
Raptors- D.Lillard
Trailblazers- S.Barnes, C.Boucher, M.Brogdon, 3 1sts from Toronto, 2 pick swap from Toronto, 1st round pick from Boston
Celtics- G.Trent Jr, M.Flynn & 2 2nds (Por/Tor)

Raptors get an alpha.

McDaniels/Porter Jr

Blazers get an A asset with Barnes, and plenty of picks. Dont know if anyone can offer more than this.


Celtics dump Brogdon for a good perimeter player who can lead their bench

Brown/Trent Jr/Banton

01 Aug 2023 22:56:41
If all Boston wants is a good perimeter who can lead their bench, they'll keep Brogdon and the 1st round pick.

04 Aug 2023 14:36:41
The trade makes sense if the raptors are chasesing a title. But they will need more help in the forward and wings. Not enough to win.

01 Aug 2023 15:08:27

A twist to the proposal i've read here:

BOS get Damian Lillard
- all in move throwing assets for Lillard while maintaining the core:

Pg Lillard/Pritchard/Banton
Sg Brown/Hauser
Sf Tatum/Brissett/Champagnie
Pf Porzingis/Kornet
Ce Williams/Horford

POR get Deandre Ayton, Jordan Walsh, Malcolm Brogdon (flip for another asset at the deadline), 3 1sts from BOS & pick swap from BOS & 2nd from PHX
- get a young big who can still have his game improve without much pressure, a 1st round pick this year and future picks for rebuild

Pg Henderson/Brogdon
Sg Sharpe/Simons
Sf Thybulle/Little
Pf Grant/Murray/Walsh
Ce Ayton/Badji

PHX get Derrick White & Jusuf Nurkic
- get 2 great role players who can fit them better for a championship run

Pg Beal/White
Sg Booker/Gordon
Sf Okogie/Lee/Bates-Diop
Pf Durant/Watanabe
Ce Nurkic/Bol/Eubanks

02 Aug 2023 14:29:25
POR is the big looser here.

31 Jul 2023 08:42:40
Celtics Trade for Lillard
Brogdon: 22,5
White: 18,4
Horford: 10
1st round pick(2024 - from Warriors)
1st round pick(2026 - Own)
1st round pick(2029 - Own)
2nd round pick(2024 - from Mavs)

Lillard: 45,6
Nassir Little: 6,2

Lillard have bigger chance to get a ring
Blazers can offload Horford after season + brogdon, White after next season if they want to

31 Jul 2023 09:49:00
Pritchard and Champagnie instead of Horford and we can call it a deal. The Celtics need Horford while the Blazers don’t. Money works either way, since the Celtics have a TPE large enough to accommodate Little.

31 Jul 2023 10:00:53
No real asset on that pckage. Blazers need young guys especially young bigs.

31 Jul 2023 16:01:38
that's a good package for Portland
Celtics should go all in on lillard.

31 Jul 2023 16:05:52
Blazers would need Rob Williams at least.

31 Jul 2023 20:17:06
as others have said, any deal should include a solid, or up-and-coming, rotation player in the front court. The Blazers don't need more 3rd and 4th string guards in a fresh-start rebuild.

01 Aug 2023 02:41:17
NBA16 is probably right.

A more likely deal would be Brogdon, Williams and all those picks for Dame (the Blazers can keep Little) . Williams is a great fit next to Scoot and Sharpe, and Brogdon can be traded for another pick at the trade deadline.

25 Jul 2023 14:12:59
This is going to be a Boston post:

The Celtics are going into next season with Tatum/Porzingis.

Brown is now going to sign 5/300? No way. But he will get a lot. There are no concievable stars worth targeting for Brown- Luka/Giannis/Embiid are the only three are there is no chance of any deal in those markets.

For these reasons, Boston can go all in right now and set themselves up to win 2-3 championships by trading for a fourth star.

They have as trade bait and filler:
Brogdon (22.5 mil)
Derrick White (18.3 mil)
Robert Williams (11.5 mil)
Horford (10 mil)
Pritchard (4 mil)

Celtics 2024-2031 first, Warriors 2024 first, tons of second rounders

I think Boston, if they choose to go after a third star, will look for one thing: a 2-4 year deal.


Package 1:

Brogdon, Horford, Robert Williams, 4 1RP, 5 2RP

Targets: Kawhi/ Zion/ Zach Lavine (for less picks)

Package 2:
Brogdon, Derrick White, Robert Williams, Payton Pritchard, 4 1RP, 4 2RP

Targets: Trae Young, Anthony Edwards, Dame, Ja Morant

Package 3 (rookie deal targets):

Robert Williams, 2 1RP

Targets: Josh Giddey

Package 4 (4th key piece, keep core but send away all of the picks):
Brogdon, 3 1RP, 3 2RP

Targets: Anfernee Simmons, Lonzo Ball (I'm not joking)

25 Jul 2023 14:46:23
I don't like Zion or Kawhi
LaVine would be a good fit in boston

I like the 2nd package, J Morant would be awesome, And T Young would be a good alternative. I don't think Minny would trade Edwards without including J Brown.

I don't see why OKC would trade Giddey

L Ball could be cheap and he provides everything Boston needs, he would be great if he can stay healty.

25 Jul 2023 14:58:51
First error. 2031 picks are not available for trade.

Second error. Lonzo Ball is not tradeable because Chicago received an approved injury exception with him missing the upcoming season.

25 Jul 2023 15:16:39
Horrible take that Brown is not getting 5/ $300 literally minutes before it is announced that Brown is getting 5/ $300.

25 Jul 2023 16:47:20
60mil a year is ridiculous for a non superstar.

25 Jul 2023 17:51:20
It looks like a lot of money, and it is, but before you know it there will be 20 players making more.

25 Jul 2023 19:28:04
NBA All-2nd-Team is a non-superstar? That is literally one of the top 10 players last season.

25 Jul 2023 19:28:58
NBA16, many more to come ?.

25 Jul 2023 20:11:27
Yup. Brown is not a superstar. I agree with NBA16. He is a legit allstar though. But about 5 players not in the 1st and 2nd all NBA is arguably better than him. He is not worth that money in any case but as mentioned above, this will be the norm in the NBA ??‍♂️.

25 Jul 2023 20:36:13
I have a hard time claiming a 6yr player with 2 all stars and 1 All-nba a superstar. I’ll give him star label.

24 Jul 2023 16:19:12
Cavs - Brown and Kornet

- taller defensive wing, Brown gets opportunity to be the guy

Celtics - Mitchell

- gets a guy under contract for 2 more years and can play next to taller guards



24 Jul 2023 17:10:35
i like a mitchell for brown swith
I value Brown a little bit higher, but Mitchell has the better contract.

Mitchell would make Tatum better and Garland would make brown better.

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